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Prescott Bush financed Hitler, GHW killed 4.73 million, "W" only 10,000 deaths so far.
Posted by Jolene , 02/09/2003, 08:36:09


Prescott Bush (President's Grandfather) financed Hitler into power from 1922 onwards and had his assets confiscated by the US Government in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. That was Prescott Bush's contribution to 54 million deaths.

There are similarities between Hitler invading Poland and Bush invading Iraq:

1. Each happened simply because just one war*****r politician decided to invade.

2. Both events had the Bushes behind it (Hitler had Prescott Bush from 1922)

3. Hitler only invaded Poland once, and killed less Poles than Dad Bush killed Iraqis. (Dad killed 200,000 in the war, 1.5million with sanctions - UNICEF)

4. Both Hitler and Bush chose a defencess nation to attack. (The Iraqis could never attack America, can't and never have killed Americans)

5. Both Bush and Hitler own the world's biggest military machines. (There over 1,000 times more Weapons of Mass Destruction in the USA; isn't that where the Weapons Inspectors should be sent?)

6. Both Hilter and Bush seized power by usurping the electoral process. (Bush brothers destroyed 250,000 Democratic votes in 4 electoral frauds in Florida, declared "W" the winner by 537 votes.)

7. Hitler and Bush gave fake reasons to invade. (Saddam Hussein has never been in partnership with bin Laden). But the Bushes and bin Ladens have been business partners for 24 years. The bin Ladens were the first investors in GW Bush's first company, Arbusto in 1978 and are still joint owners of The Carlyle Group, a multi billion dollar weapons company which the Bushes built up with corrupt government contacts.

8. Freedom in Germany and the USA had been denied before the attack (This time it's Bush's cynically named USA Patriot Act which nullifies the Bill of Rights of 1791. Both Hitler and Bush imprison people without trial.)

9. Both Hitler and the Bushes show stunning cruelty. (Dad Bush dropped depleted uranium "dirty bombs;" now thousands of Iraqis are dying horrible deaths of radiation poisoning.)

10. The populations of both Germany and the USA were indoctrinated by the govenment (Carl Rove with 24/7 "news" has duped Americans into believing they are "under threat" and war is "inevitable")

11. Hitler and Bush both keep their populations subdued with brutality. (GW Bush faced 7 legal cases (eventual impeachment?) for electoral fraud in Florida. That was Bush's motive to bring down the World Trade on 9/11. He said his junior business partner Osama did it, which is unbelievable - he should have resigned at that point if only for his connections to Osama.)

12. Both wars could have been prevented simply by arresting the President of the invading country and prosecuting him for election fraud and war crimes. (GW Bush has killed 10,000 innocent Afghans).

War is only inevitable while Bush is President. We will be at war for as long as Bush is President.

If Carl Rove continues to fool the American people and Bush serves two terms, he will destroy the foreign-debt ridden American economy for all time. (He will probably also kill more than the total of 4.73 million people his Dad did, but Americans don't know about that - their press is censored for foreign news.)

And remember the USA orgainsed the 1963 coup which put Saddam Hussein's brutal Bathist party in power, and the USA and Britain financed and armed Hussein every step of the way. All the killing around Iraq has been done by the USA or is the responsibility of the USA. It is up to the USA to remove Bush first, as Dubya is the real threat and killer, then remove Saddam the way it put him in, ie a coup, not a war.

If you want more proof, see bushfraud.blogspot.com.


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The GW Bush interview:
The questions the Media omitted to ask


Mr President, it seems the standard of journalism in the USA has fallen hopelessly. As a result, during your campaign the Press failed to subject you to a serious investigation or a proper background check; you didn't even get an in depth interview. May we make up for that failure now? Thank you.



1). While you were Governor of Texas 130 people were executed. You spared no one (except the Satanist and child molester Henry Lee Lukas who had murdered around 200 people). Some of those executed were mentally retarded, some had incompetent or corrupt state defence lawyers. Several had evidence to prove their innocence, DNA in one case; some were foreigners and had their right of consular access denied, appeals from the governments of Europe, Canada and Mexico went unheard. You even ignored appeals from His Holiness the Pope in the Vatican.


No more striking evidence of your lack of compassion can be illustrated than in matters of life and death. In the light of this, isn't your platform of "Compassionate" Conservatism just hypocrisy?


You have made it clear in a number of television interviews that you regard executions as somewhere between funny and enjoyable. On Talk Magazine you mocked Karla Faye Tucker, with the sarcastic words "Please don't kill me". You also laughed as you gloated over your executions on your first TV debate; your own Republican election staff quickly stopped you after that one.


Isn't the right to life the most fundamental American freedom? Is a man who regards execution so cynically fit to be entrusted with the Presidency and the defence of individual freedom? Isn't a State that executes people when there is proof of their innocence close to committing murder? Isn't the truth that you just don't care one way or another?


You are recorded in 1968 as joining the Chapter 332 Order, a satanic society known as "The Skulls". Is this why you released Lukas?


2. Bush the anti abortion campaigner, and your illegal abortion. Early 1970.
President Bush, are you opposed to abortion? Yes?


On October 20th 2000 CNN interviewed Larry Flynt who said he had affadavits from five women who were connected with your early 1970 illegal abortion in Houston (While you were working on your Dad's campaign, before Roe v Wade). Isn't it an abhorrent hypocrisy for you to be so anti abortion when you have arranged at least one yourself?


3. Drug use, drug dealing, cheating your 15 and 30 year prison sentences, 1972
President Bush, weren't you arrested in 1972 for possessing a large quantity of Cocaine and its use, and didn't you then spend some time in Harris County Jail? Don't many people get 15 years in prison for this? Who secretly commuted your sentence to a year's PULL community service in Houston and covered it up as "work for the disadvantaged"? Was it your Dad's or your Skull and Bones contacts? Who? Why didn't the Press sing it from the rooftops?


Until you were 40 years old weren't you a selfish playboy who didn't care for the disadvantaged?


According to Reed's book, "Compromised" published by Penmarin Books, the DEA set up a drugs sting in 1985 with FBI information and the help of Barry Seal (a CIA agent who smuggled drugs for the CIA). At Tamiami airport in Florida they filmed the transfer of several kilos of cocaine from Beech N6308F into a Beech King Air, whose co- pilot was Terry Reed. Didn't they cancel the arrest when they realised the drug buyers they were filming were you and your brother, ie Jeb and George W Bush? Is it appropriate for a President to have been dealing in Cocaine by the kilo? Barry Seal was murdered soon after, the investigation into his death quashed. Did you or one of the government departments over which your family has private influence or control order his murder to cover up your actions?


Isn't it cynical hypocrisy for you to press for the hardest possible sentence on first time drug offenders when you dealt in kilos yourself? Others who dealt in kilos got 30 years in prison. Isn't it unfair you get off scot free?


4. Dodging Vietnam, one year AWOL from the Texas National Guard 1972-3
You were due to be drafted to Vietnam in 1969, when some of the heaviest fighting was taking place. But according to the Dallas Morning News, September 28 & October 30, 1999, didn't your business associate Sid Adger get the Speaker of the Texas House of Representative to contact General James Rose, and get you into the Texas National Guard? Didn't you dodge Vietnam completely?


General William Turnipseed and his aide Kenneth Lott both flatly deny that you ever appeared for duty for your service in Alabama. (The Boston Globe, May 23, 1999.) Didn't your two superior officers at Ellington Air Force Base, Lieutenant Colonel William D. Harris Jr. and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, effectively declare you missing from duty?


Weren't you AWOL from the Texas National Guard from May 1972 to April 73? Why is all this reported in detail in the local newspapers but not in the National media? What power does the Republican party possess to keep it hidden?



5. Foul language. Who's worse, you or President Nixon?
Do you think President Nixon's "expletive deleted" language on the famous Watergate tapes a disgrace to America?


You do? Then why do you use the same language in private? Just to quote three examples among the many: "Asshole" about a reporter to Dick Cheney when you thought the microphones were off; the F-word to your mother while arguing, "You F- son of a bitch" to Al Hunt, a Wall St Journal reporter, in front of Hunt's wife and 4 year old son in a Dallas restaurant. If we were to listen to tapes of you talking in private, who would sound the worst, you or President Nixon?


6. Lying under oath, lying to cover your DWI. 1976, 1978 An alcoholic for 20 years.
Mr President Bush, it appears President Clinton lied under oath. Do you condone his actions? No?


Then why did you lie under oath to avoid testifying in a July 20th 1999 affidavit: that as Governor you had not spoken to SCI Funeral Homes representatives? They were a big Bush contributor who were under investigation and there are records of you speaking to them on six occasions. Soon, you got the investigator, Eliza May and her 6 staff, fired. Why didn't the Press hound you to death over this matter as they did President Clinton? What power do you, your family, the Republican Party or your organisations have over the Press?


Did you lie about your DWI to cover it up? No?


In court in 1978, to get your license back, you said you rarely drank, but later you admitted you had a drink problem at that time. You lied to the Dallas Morning news saying you hadn't been arrested (your DWI arrest was in 1976). How many other times did you lie about just that issue alone? Do you think a US President should be a liar on the public record?


After you became Governor of Texas, your Texas driving record was mysteriously erased "for security reasons". Was there more we don't know about? Or was this just a cynical abuse of power?


Isn't it true that for 20 years you were a rich, hard drinking playboy with a control problem; indulging in sex orgies, frequent drug usage; to overcome your drink problem you admit you were forced to become teetotal at age 40. By every definition of the term, you were an alcoholic. Is this appropriate for a President? If things get tough in the White House and you have a drink to cope with the stress, will you, like many alcoholics, revert uncontrollably to being an alcoholic again? But this time, you'd be an alcoholic in The White House. Didn't you consider, before you ran, of the damage your background could do to America? Or do you just want the power, and don't care about America or Americans?


On 14th January 2002 we saw your bruised, and apparently hung-over face on the cover of the world's newspapers. The spin was you had choked on a pretzel, fallen down and smashed your face. Isn't the truth that your're drunk again?


7. Lying about adultery. The Texas stripper, 1999.
In your campaign you claimed you have been faithful to your wife, yet Tammy Phillips of Carrolton, Texas, states you had an 18 month sexual affair with her which the Republican party forced you to finish in June 1999. It was published in The National Enquirer, the New York Post, Fox News, and Slate magazine. If this had been Clinton, proven or not, the coverage would have been nauseating and unending. President Bush, what power did you have over the Press that you could have the whole story instantly squashed?


In your election campaign you said "I trust the people" then got your lawyers to stop the people's votes being counted in Florida. Was this another lie?


Is it fair to say you do not see yourself so much as a liar as unable to see any point in telling the truth? Do you understand or care which is which?


You piously say you are a Christian, isn't this a revolting hypocrisy on the basis of your actions?


8. Business failure and Corporate fraud. 1978 - 91
Like your father, you were a Director of three front "Oil" companies that failed miserably but provided cover for your other activities. At Arbusto Energy your investors lost $4.7 million, then when the next company, Spectrum 7, bought the remains of Arbusto, you arranged to pay yourself in full for your share but not the other shareholders. Isn't that illegal?


The failed remains of Spectrum were bought by Harken Energy. Again you got on the board of directors. Didn't you introduce the corrupt BCCI bank, soon liquidated for its frauds, and put one of their directors on Harken's board? Didn't you then sell 60% of your Harken shares one week before the company revealed disasterous earnings? The company's stock then plunged 25%, soon 75%. Again, didn't you lose investors' money?


You violated another SEC rule. You had to register the stock sale as an insider trade by July 10, 1990, but didn't until March 1991, after the Gulf War was over. Why weren't you prosecuted?


Weren't your dealings with the Texas Rangers another fraud? Didn't you make $15 million, by getting your political friends to write down Arlington Texas City land so your company could buy it cheap, then getting a $135 million subsidy from the city on top? Again you had directors from the fraudulent BCCI on the board. Didn't the taxpayers of Arlington have to suffer a higher tax rate, just to pay for the frauds you had perpetrated on them?
What other drug related dealing did you do with BCCI, who dealt in drugs on a massive scale?


When you became Governor of Texas didn't you use state funds from UTIMCO – the Texas State Investment Company – to pay back those investors in your failed companies who were your cronies? Haven't you made a practice of using Government funds to pay back those who supported your private life? Didn't UTIMCO "invest" $1.7 billion, mainly in Bush crony companies? Have you no concern that is fraud on taxpayers? Are you really wholly uninterested in taxpayers unless they are forced to finance your own illegal dealings?


Is it fair to sum up your business career as failure, insider trading and fraud? Why did the Republican Party fail to act on this after a background check before you ran? Why didn't the Press pick this up and stop your Presidential candidacy as they should have done with this information, which was and still is in the record for all to see?


9. Billionaires' bribes and their enormous paybacks at taxpayer expense
Isn't the $1.6 trillion tax cut for the rich another payback for the wealthy backers of your private life, aren't some of them going to get over $1 million in rebates each, again at the public expense? Aren't we paying high gas prices so you can pay back your commitments to Big Oil, who are now making record profits in return for their support of your private life? Don't you dislike individual business people, non-employees, or personal independence – isn't this crony capitalism again?


Aren't you bought and paid for by big oil and big corporations like Enron? How much of Enron's policy did your administration implement? Didn't your friend "Kenny Boy" – Mr Lay the CEO, put half a million into you? Why did you lie you had only met Mr Lay recently, when you have known him for 20 years? Aren't you pro big corporations, particularly the corrupt ones? Weren't Ashcroft and Dick Cheney deep into Enron? Didn't you hold Enron up for three months while 35 White House Republicans milked it of $1.38 billion and left ordinary Americans to lose their shirts? Clifford Baxter was one of the few honest Enron board members. Clifford said he needed a bodyguard as he would be testifying. How deeply would he have incriminated you? Did Kenny Boy ask your government to fix his murder or did you make that decision all on your own? Will honest witnesses keep being killed until Enron dies down?


10). The 26 year Bush - bin Laden partnership
Wasn't James Bath, the Bin Laden family's US representative, on your Governor's campaign in 1978 and didn't he front Salem Bin Laden's investment of $50,000 for 5% of your Arbusto 1978 company?


In 1979 didn't your father begin funnelling money to Osama bin Laden, under the guise of fighting the Russians?


Between 1978 and 1992 when your Dad left office, didn't he put at least $6 billion into Afghanistan for weapons, and didn't Osama bin Laden get hundreds of millions of that US taxpayers cash?

Your father is both a shareholder and the senior consultant in the Carlyle group; the bin Ladens are the biggest shareholders. Is it just coincidence that your Dad is working for the bin Ladens? Haven't you and your Dad, by awarding it huge US contracts at the expense of the American taxpayer, taken it from nowhere to the world's 11th leargest defense contractor? Didn't Carlyle back you heavily in your election campaigns and weren't you paid to sit on one of their boards (Caterair 1990).


Your Dad met bin Laden's family as recently as 1998 and 2000 (Wall St Journal Sept 27 2001).


11. Your scorn for human beings and human rights.
You cancelled the Bill of Rights which has been in the Constitution since 1791 on 26th October 2001 with your cynically named "USA Patriot Act." Don't you get a smirk out of that one? Now at your personal edict any government department can seize and imprison Americans, who then have no rights. No right to trial or even a phone call, no right to ever be released. Foreigners don't even require an edict. You have already seized and are holding over 1,000 people under this act, some US citizens. We don't have the right to know how many. How do you prevent the press from blasting your abuse of the Constitution from the rooftops?


Although we lost less people in the World Trade (2,990) than Ireland lost to the American financed IRA terrorists (3,700), you used the WTC as the excuse for this cynical Act, which abolished habeus corpus, the right to trial, and a string of other freedoms. Britain lost 200,000 Londoners to the blitz and 15% of its buildings but reacted less cruelly to its own citizens. Isn't your attitude to ordinary people's lives and freedom as cynical as Andropov or Chenyenko's?

"People shouldn't have that much freedom" That was your comment about an anti-Bush web site, gwbush.com. Isn't that a dangerous view for freedom of speech, particularly when so many Bush private enemies have "disappeared" – I have a list of 30 here. Will you restrict web freedoms to stop continuing exposure of your dishonesty, under the pretence of something else? Wasn't Steve Kangas murdered because his "Liberalism Resurgent" website knew too much about you and your cronies?


Don't your election-count court cases in Florida tell us again and again it is the System and the State that count, not the individual or their vote? Together with many other rich and powerful Republicans, isn't your attitude to the private individual in tune with that of Soviet Communists?


You classed Afghan prisoners of war who defended their government against the USA, a foreign aggressor, as "unlawful combatants" instead of prisoners of war, denying them POW rights, and kept them off US soil in Cuba so they have no US rights. You snatched them out of their own country, where you had no right to be. You kept them in open cages wrapped in thick hot red suits with blacked out goggles, earmuffs and surgical masks, with their arms tied straightjacket style, legs manacled together, forced to kneel for 12 hours a day. The 100 degree heat must have been unbearably higher in the suits.
The sweat must have run down inside their goggles, possibly filling them up, the damp in the masks make every breath feel like suffocation. Isn't that a cruel torture? Sensory deprivation is torture, and they had that on top. Isn't this just wholly unnecessary pure unfettered evil on your part?


Don't you give a damn about "innocent until proved guilty"? We haven't seen treatment like this in the Western world since the Gestapo. Is there no end to your disdain for human rights?


Wasn't America an Unlawful Combatant in its illegal bombing of Afghanistan? Your only right was that the WTC attacks may have been financed from there. Under your rules, doesn't Britain have the right to carpet bomb the US because the IRA was definitely financed from there? And wouldn't you, Mr Bush, under your own rules, be an unlawful combatant if you tried to defend your government, as the Afghanis did? And isn't your government as illegitimate as the Taliban's?


Your family was devastated when your Dad didn't serve a second term and is determined you will. You will lose the election next time with far larger numbers than can be fiddled in Florida. When your re-election comes up in 2 years, will you conveniently cause another war so you can cancel the elections?


You have carpet bombed Afghanistan, murdering perhaps 10,000 people, not one of whom could possibly have any connection to the Twin Towers terrorism -they are innocent. All with the excuse of searching for a man we now know is your associate and is almost certainly not in that country. Do you have no genuine regret for your part in this, or is it just too minor a genocide by comparison with your Dad's efforts?


President Clinton was a stong supporter of the International Criminal court in the Hague where Mr Milosevic is being tried. You have reversed US policy and are strongly against this court and have tried to frustrate its progress. Are you concerned you and your Dad, who is responsible for 4.73 million middle east deaths against Milosevic's 500,000, might be prosecuted there, or do you associate the methods of the accused closely with your own?


12). You confirmed on 7th August 2000 your satanic society membership since 1968.
Like your father, while at Yale you became a lifetime member of the satanic and secretive " Chapter 322 Order" (known as the Skulls) in 1968 and admit it (eg your interview Time Magazine August 7th 2000). You are listed in "The Russel Trust Association" - the Skull's business corporation, as a member. Isn't it true that graduates of this club are in positions of power throughout the US government, and use this power to corruptly aid other members at the expense of the people they purport to represent? How many times have you used Skull and Bones members to pervert the actions of government departments for your private use? Weren't you inducted at the Skull's "temple" at 59 High St New Haven Connecticut? (100 yards North, left hand side, from the junction with Chapel Street)


In 1968 didn't your initiation ritual into the occult Skull and Bones involve you climbing into a coffin and taking the oath that you were dead to yourself, dead to the world, and born again in Lucifer? Wasn't your second oath that you would not abide by any other oath you took in the future (ie including the oath of Presidential office)? Didn't Hitler go through the same ritual in the Thule society, parent society to the Skull and Bones?


When you say you are born again, isn't this what you're referring to? Isn't your deepest cynicysim really reserved for the Christian religion? Is that why you spared only the Satanist Henry Lee Lucas, because he was one of you? Is that why you, a dimwit, have been able to become President, because you sold yourself to the devil?


Wasn't your smirking, gloating mocking of your Texan executed victims on television typical behaviour for a satanist?


Aren't you much more powerful in the Satanic world than your Dad, because your election was illegitimate? Should we fear more destruction from you than him?


More Yale Skull and bones graduates join the CIA than any other branch of government. Isn't the CIA controlled by the Skull and Bones? Isn't the Skull's aim confusion, war and death? Aren't the Bushes the most powerful family in the Skulls, and haven't you controlled the CIA since 1976, whether in power or not?


Isn't the Skull's main aim the same as the Thule Society's - the reduction of the world's population to 2 billion, which now entails the murder of 4.5 billion people with atomic weapons? And aren't you the only guy in the world with sufficient nuclear weapons to achieve it? Isn't that why your Dad said, in 1976 "Nuclear War is winnable"? Isn't this why you're trying to start a war in Iraq, which will appear to go wrong, so you have an excuse to fire these weapons and achieve the Skull's goal?


Or is this, best case, all a childish prank? In which case is it proper for a President to have been dabbling in the occult? Why, when asked, have you never denounced this ritual or the Skull and Bones? Why have you never renounced your membership of an occult society?


13. Neil Bush's $1 billion Silverado S&L Fraud, Jeb Bush only $8m fraud.
Do you remember Broward Federal Savings and Loan? It went belly-up in 1988, thanks in great part to the $4.6 million default by your brother Jeb Bush and his business partner Armando Codina on a loan they had taken out to buy a Miami office tower. The taxpayers absorbed over $4 million of that debt, while Jeb and his partner ended up paying only half a million. Amazingly, they had sufficient influence to keep the building, which they later sold for $8.7 million, (although Jeb denies making any money on this deal!!) Jeb Bush dishonestly described himself as a "Realator licensed by the state of Florida". He didn't have a license at the time as the State was investigating him for fraud.


And your brother Neil Bush was on the Board of Silverado Savings and Loan. The Houston Post says "Silverado was part of an intricate web of federally insured financial institutions that had business links to organized crime". Two of Neil's associates (directors of his own company, JNB) alone received $130 million from that S&L which they never returned. It finally went bust for a billion dollars, and the taxpayers footed the bill. Wasn't that massive fraud again?


Are these the family ethics that your brother Jeb used to get you the Presidency in Florida?



14. Illegitimate President: Florida: 250,000 votes stolen in your 4 electoral frauds.
Mr President, Al Gore had a 600,000 vote lead over you ac**** the nation. Mr Gore was also well ahead (22 electoral college votes) before Florida was counted. You were well behind and you had to have Florida to overtake Gore. The voting in Florida under Jeb Bush seemed to be about even and one hell of a mess. The State rejected a total of 180,000 ballots in the 67 counties. The manufacturers of the voting machines themselves confirm they have a two to five percent error rate. Taking the middle figure of 3 1/2 % errors and 6 million Florida voters, we know who won Florida to the nearest 210,000 votes. And yet your brother's organisation managed to declare you the winner by a figure of 537 votes.


Doesn't the fact that your brother is Governor of the state with the corrupted election system compromise both him and you, and make America look like a Third World Country?


Do you know how that looks to the outside world?


Does it bother you that your 537 vote lead was officially certified on behalf of the State of Florida by none other than the co-chairman of your own "Bush for President Campaign", Kathleen Harris? Wouldn't that abject lack of electoral independence be banned in most Third World countries?


What should an honourable presidential candidate have done, if he had America's best interests at heart? Wouldn't an honourable man have conceeded, to protect his brother's reputation, the voting system's integrity, his own reputation and his country's reputation?


On the announcement of the closeness of the voting your Brother Jeb Bush honourably "Recused" himself from the election count process, properly promising to have nothing to do with it, because of the conflict of interest, ie, brotherhood versus the fairness of the election.


The New York Times detailed how Jeb then worked furiously behind the scenes and successfully ensured the count went in your favour. Does it bother you that your brother firstly lied, and then interfered with the counting process, to get you elected President?


Now Florida has been recounted by hand it is confirmed Al Gore won by all of the six counting methods employed, and by thousands of votes. But the Florida Ballots Project run by the National Opinion Research Council were frightened to publish the results; which we only know because staff leaked the results. How have you managed to keep the fact that your Presidency is entirely fraudulent out of the US press?


The American press has totally failed as the watch dog of our freedom and it was the BBC who reported that Jeb Bush, 18 months before the election, instructed Kathleen Harris, to remove 173,000 black Americans from the Florida electoral role. 90% of blacks vote democrat. Wern't you involved too? And didn't she declare you the winner by just 537 votes?


Weren't you guilty of destroying 250,000 Democratic votes in 4 different frauds?


Isn't your presidency entirely illegitimate?


15. Your devastation of the US economy.
Under your governorship, Texas sank to the bottom of more achievement tables than any other state. Does this bother you, or not? How did you prevent the Press reporting these failures in your election campaign? If you were an economic disaster in Texas, weren't you bound to be a bigger disaster as President?


On the 29th December the New York Times reported 43 occasions when you had talked down the economy so you could push through your 1.6 trillion tax cut for your billionaire bakers. You hadn't even taken the oath of office. As President if you talk recession you will get a recession – and you got one.


Your own campaign said you "don't understand the details" - you will rely on the advocacy of one man for an idea, rather than understand the idea. What do you do when you get bad ideas presented well? The nation gets stuck with bad policy because you can't analyse it?


You talked war from the moment you took office, and the firings were numbering tens of thousands a month every time you spoke as companies closed projects purely because of the uncertainty and the threat of war that you alone created.


The day of the WTC attack you allowed the Government to close. What message does that send to a potential enemy? "Attack here, we just go home?" You forced the airlines and Wall St to shut down for 4 days, doing 5 World Trade Centres-worth of economic damage each day. You allowed Congress to close for a week. Didn't you make a minor economic impact become a large impact because of your bad leadership? Why didn't you take examples from other countries of fortitude under attack and a "carry on regardless" attitude?


Or was your talk of war, the closing of the government on 11th September, the closing of the airlines, Stock Exchanges and half of Manhattan for six days, and your massive exaggeration of this issue self aggrandisement of your role as Commander in Chief? Yes, it did wonders in the polls, but half the nation is sitting on its hands: you have made Americans scared to fly, scared to go to work, scared to go out to dinner. Have you deliberately turned "The land of the free and the home of the brave" into a nation of cowards? Haven't you most definitely done 100 times more economic damage to the USA than the terrorists?


Haven't you now created a massive recession? Don't you understand the damage you have already done, or don't you care as long as you look good? Or was it deliberate?


16. Didn't you have the strongest motive to bring down the World Trade?
By July 2001 were you running scared? Your popularity had fallen to an all time low due to your attacks on the economy, which was sinking fast, and your Florida election frauds were becomming more and more difficult to conceal. Wern't you in danger of being impeached for election fraud and losing your Presidency?


Bringing down the World Trade on 9/11 solved all your problems beautifully - your approval rating went up to 90%, you became unassailably established as President and the legal cases that were being prepared against you for election fraud were droppped.


Weren't you the only beneficiary of the destruction of the World Trade?


Isn't it a fact that if your family hadn't perverted the election result, and Al Gore was President, the World Trade towers would still be standing today?


17. Indicators of your involvment with the destruction of the World Trade.
Two combat ready squadrons are kept at Andrews Air Force Base 10 miles away to protect Washington from rogue civil aircraft; they can be airborne in less than 5 minutes; it was automatic, and they didn't need government authorisation to take off. Didn't you stand them down for that one day, 9/11?. US forces around the world were put on Defcon3 alert immediately - but not Andrews.


For 75 minutes after it is known that 4 airlines have been hijacked simultaneously, your government didn't scramble one fighter aircraft - therefore allowing the attack on the Pentagon to succeed.

UA Flight 93 crashed in Pensylvania. Why are you concealling the contents of the Cockpit Voice Recorder and the Black box, and the flight path of the plane for the 9 minutes after the passengers stormed the cockpit? Is it because they found out your government was controlling the plane and not terrorists? Did you order the F16 that was shadowing it to shoot it down at 10.03am for that reason? Is that why one engine was found a mile away, proving it blew up in the air?


You were safely in Florida as the planes struck, 1,000 miles away, on a long scheduled school visit. When told about the WTC instead of looking shocked, you looked guilty. You were an obvious target at a well publicised venu but you stayed at the school and didn't go into hiding - didn't you know perfectly well you were completely safe?


Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and CIA Director George Tenet visited General Pervez Musharraf and General Mahmud Ahmad, head of the Pakistani ISI. [Source The Indian SAPRA news agency, May 22, 2001.] Then Mahamud Ahmad transferred $100,000 to Mohammad Atta, leader of the Twin Towers terrorists. (The Times of India, October 11, 2001). The FBI forced Mahamud to resign because of the transfer. Was that just to make you look better? Then:


June 2001 – German intelligence, the BND, warns the CIA and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists are "planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons." [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, September 14, 2001.] You weren't interested. Was that because you already knew?


Summer 2001 – An Iranian man phones U.S. law enforcement to warn of an imminent attack on the World Trade Center in the week of September 9th. German police confirm the calls but state that the U.S. Secret Service would not reveal any further information. [Source: German news agency "online.ie", September 14, 2001.] You did nothing.


August 2001 – The FBI arrests an Islamic militant linked to bin Laden in Boston. French intelligence sources confirm that the man is a key member of bin Laden's network and the FBI learns that he has been taking flying lessons. At the time of his arrest the man is in possession of technical information on Boeing aircraft and flight manuals. [Source: Reuters, September 13.] You weren't interested.


Summer 2001 – Russian intelligence notifies the CIA that 25 terrorist pilots have been specifically training for suicide missions. This is reported in the Russian press and news stories are translated for FTW by a retired CIA officer. You did nothing.


July 4-14, 2001 – Osama bin Laden receives treatments for kidney disease at the American hospital in Dubai, is seen by his family often and has several meetings with a CIA official who returns to CIA headquarters on July 15th. [ Le Figaro, October 31st, 2001.]


August 2001 – Russian President Vladimir Putin orders Russian intelligence to warn the U.S. government "in the strongest possible terms" of imminent attacks on airports and government buildings. [Source: MS-NBC interview with Putin, September 15.] You did nothing.


September 6-10, 2001 Over 9,000 put options are purchased on United Air Lines and American Airlines stock as opposed to only 1,100 call options This is a dramatic and abnormal increase in sales of put options, many of them through Deutschebank/AB Brown, a firm managed until 1998 by the current Executive Director of the CIA, A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard. [Source: The Herzliyya International Policy Institute for Counterterrorism, September 21; The New York Times; The Wall Street Journal.] More abnormal puts are bought on companies with offices in the twin Towers. $2.5 million of the 15 million profits are still unclaimed because the identity of the owners of the options would now be traced. Obviously CIA staff knew about the World Trade attacks in advance and made millions out of it.


At best Mr Bush, didn't you know about the Twin Towers attacks months in advance? Russia, France and Germany warned you and you did nothing. At worst, did you have a hand in their organisation? Didn't the attack suit you, because it allows you to wage war without end?


18. Would bin Laden dare to act on 9/11 without his senior partner's consent?
The bin Laden family made millions out of their corrupt partnership with the Bush family; Osama bin Laden seems to have made the most, almost certainly over a hundred million dollars. As the junior partner in this Bush relationship, isn't it inconceivable Osama would have attack the World Trade without your consent?


If Osama is guilty as you say shouldn't you resign anyway for your close ties with America's enemy? Just like your grandfather Prescott?


You seized upon Osma Bin Laden as the culprit without proof. Why? Could it be because of the Bush family's 24 year business relationship with Osma and the bin Laden family (documented in Newsweek and the New York Times in Februrary 2002)? While your Dad was in charge of the CIA, didn't he train, finance and arm bin Laden to fight a proxy war on the CIA's behalf against the Russians in Afghanistan? Didn't GHW Bush help create and finance Al Qaeda? Wasn't Bin Laden almost the only CIA success story, ie he drove the Russians out with Taliban and other help? Didn't your Dad and the CIA continue to have meetings with Bin Laden right through 2001?


Salem bin Laden, your business partner from 1978, died in an inexplicable and uninvestigated microlight aircraft crash in San Antonio, Texas, in 1988. Did you fall out with him? Thirty people who knew too much about the Bushes have been murdered. Was he one of them?


Did you seize on Osama bin Laden as the culprit because you alone know he is dead? Doesn't this allow your "war on terror" to continue for as long as you want, because America will never find Osama? And the next obvious question is: did the Bush family order Osama's death and the hiding of his body?


Your abysmal handling of 9/11. Was it deliberate?
The first plane hit the WTC at 8:45am. People were trapped on the upper floors, yet no one in your government scrambled military helicopters to get them off. They all died after an hour and a half. Why no attempt at helicopters?


Have you thought of the futility and stupidity of starting a war against the perpetrators? They are all dead, all 19 of them You can't have a war against dead people. A war against their financiers? You can't have a war against individuals. You can only declare war against a country.


19. Wars and killings organised by the Bush family - the cause of most terrorism?
Your Grandfather, Prescott Bush, had his assets confiscated by the US Government on 20th October 1942 for trading with the enemy (Vesting Orders 248, 259,261,370). Hitler was a member of the Satanic Thule Society, Prescott Bush was a member of the Thule's first daughter society, the Skull and Bones.


As fellow satanists with the same objectives - death, confusion and war, wasn't it natural for Prescott Bush to help Hitler? The Union Banking Corporation of which Prescott Bush was both CEO and a shareholder with the Harrimans, George Herbert Walker and the Thyssens was set up to finance Hitler from 1922.


Bush was also a Director of Brown Brothers Harriman. Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation of Oswiecim, Poland was one of 15 subsidiaries. Prescott Bush was the CEO, and he empoyed slave labor from Auschwitz. In a subsidiary, the German Steel Trust, they also manufacturered 35% of Germany's explosives.


Prescott received $1.5 million (worth $100 million today) for his share in UBC in 1951, with which he financed his son, GHW Bush. And aren't you very well aware that you are financed by profits from Hitler?


Are you proud that your Grandfather helped make Hitler the most successful Satanist of all time with 54 million deaths to his name?


In the 1980's didn't GHW Bush put $3 billion in finance for weapons into Afghanistan? Didn't the largest shares go to the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Osama bin Laden? Didn't the Taliban take control of Afghanistan as a result of your Dad, isn't most of the $200 million thought be in Al qaeda's bank accounts American taxpayer's money he put there? Didn't Osama Bin laden get at least $100 million from your Dad?


Two million Afhghanis died at the wrong end of these US financed weapons and 6 million were made homeless by your father's intervention,.


The awful American press doesn't report this, but John Simpson of the BBC has.


Wasn't it GHW Bush that cooerced Saddam Hussein into war against Iran to try to regain control after the Shah was deposed? (See John Pilger's article on "Black propaganda"). One million Arabs died.


Prior to the invasion of Kuwait, President Bush sent Ambassador April Glaspie to Saddam with a letter and a "wink and a nod" telling the Iraqi leader that it was OK to invade Kuwait.


GHW Bush, as President, in a typical Skull and Bones doublec****, then carpet bombed 200,000 Iraqi soldiers (whose only wish was to surrender and get away from Saddam) to death.


Dad Bush encouraged a rebellion against Saddam in the south which grew to 30,000 strong. He then refused to allow the rebels fuel, or access to the arms they had captured, and turned them out to be murdered by the Republican army. American helicopters watched as they were mowed down. Bush had no intention of removing Saddam, his ally.


Your Dad delibertely dropped depleted Uranium "dirty bombs" in Desert Storm. Now thousands of Southern Iraqis are dying ghastly deaths of radiation poisoning. Isn't this worse than anything Saddam Hussein did? Aren't you a cruel and evil family?


Bush's sanctions have now killed another 1.5 million Iraqis, most of them children according to UNESCO.


That's 4.83 million deaths your Dad organised. Is that good for a Satanist? Wasn't George HW Bush responsible for more genocide than Slobbodan Milosevic?


What plans do you have in this direction? Will you be copying your Dad? So far you've carpet bombed a mere 10,000 innocent Afghanis to death, at least 3,500 of whom are women, children or civilians.


Isn't it a fact Mr President, that because of your Dad's millions of killings, the USA is the most hated country in the world today? Don't many Arabs want to get back as the Bushes, still the most powerful family in the CIA?


Now as President you are inventing a war. Aren't you determined to get one? More than one?


In 1976 your Dad said "Nuclear war is winnable". You've just announced a $48 billion increase to your war budget that totals $379 billion. That's seven times more military might than the next biggest country, 36% of the entire world's warchest. Never in the history of warfare has one nation been so militarily invincible. Even the brutal Romans had less of the total. The USA could probably declare war on all the other 235 countries of the world at once and win.


So why the $48 Billion increase? To fight the "tens of thousands" of AlQueda guerrillas you invented in your State of the Union speech? You've already got enough weapons to take out 2 billion people, tens of thousands are just a piece of cake. To combat the knives and pepper spray the 19 terrorists used? Or is war just the only agenda for the Bushes and the Skull and Bones?


Aren't these weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a Skull and Bonesman, who's aim is to nuke 4.5 billion, the real threat? Isn't Saddam Hussein, although your family's long standing ally, just your fall guy?


You may well unite a billion Arabs against the US, who could cut off our oil supplies and force a world war. Haven't you given Ariel Sharon a free hand to provoke just that? Is this incompetence or your intention?


Wouldn't a better plan be to formulate a new American Foreign Policy without bloodshed, and abolish the CIA? Then, at last, no one would have any reason to hate the USA. And bring in stringent retrospective death penalties for government employees who cause bloodshed overseas to stop it happening again. Isn't that the only long term solution? Why aren't you interested?


Instead aren't we going to war just to preserve your Dad's existing bloodthirsty policies, which have lead to 9.5 million CIA inspired deaths in 50 countries around the world? Aren't the CIA the worlds largest state sponsored terrorists?


In the light of the 4.83 million dead Muslims who would still be alive but for George Bush and the CIA, isn't any Bush the most unsuitable person to be leading the USA right now? Shouldn't you resign for your country's sake?


You've easily fooled the naive Mr. Blair into taking Britain into Afghanistan. But what has this private war started by the CIA, and the business only of Bush, the CIA and the Taliban, got to do with Britain? What if the Taliban explode a breifcase nuclear bomb in London in retailiation? What if half a million uninvolved and innocent British people die? Will this merely please you as it will enhance your Commander In Chief status and confirm Britain as your ally?


Given the history and connections of the Bushes wouldn't it pay you to ask the CIA to explode that bomb for you? Has the CIA spread the Anthrax to give you more support (90% for your Commander in Chief role in the polls)? It is precisely the sort of operation they are famous for. And isn't it now proved it's American made anthrax spores?


In your State of the Union address of 29th January 2002 the first half of your speech was devoted to war. Will you be at war throughout your presidency? Can you fool all the Americans all the time?


Isn't it a fact that the combination of the Bush family, the Skull and Bones, and the CIA are the most powerful anti-American forces on the face of this planet?


You called Iran and Iraq the "Axis of evil". 819 of iraq's 821 missiles are destroyed, its nuclear program 93% destroyed according to the UN weapons inspectors who WERE allowed in January 2002; 600,000 children have died because the US isn't letting humanitarian aid into the country. By contrast the USA is now the most powerful military nation the world. Doesn't the real "Axis of evil" control the White House?


Unlike other Western nations, American television "news" is almost entirely given over to war, 24 hours a day, on all channels. Are you deliberately brainwashing Americans to expect war?


You have already been an economic disaster to the USA but you are good at war. It raises your poll ratings and enables you to suppress criticism by jailing without trial those who are a problem to you. Where will your next war be?


20. Your real motive for the Iraq war.
As a Satanist, don't you just have to carpet bomb another 200,000 Iraqis to death? Won't you ensure, like your Dad, that not one hair of Saddam's head is touched?


After this carnage will you then sleep the sound sleep of the successful Satanist? Or will you contrive for the war to go wrong so you can fire some of your massive atomic arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, to fulfill the Skull's aims of reducing the the world's population to 2 billion?


21. The Bush Body count - 30 - please Mr. President, don't have me murdered too.
Turning again to your family's personal life, a number of people who were about to give testimony that could damage the Bushes have been murdered, and investigations in to their death suddenly terminated. Some are included in the enclosed "Bush body count" of thirty people. Does it bother you that, when your reputation is threatened, people often die?


Are you plainly too stupid for the job, and most of your schemes organised by cronies? Or are you so cunningly devious you have been able to wear a mask of stupidity your entire life?


Wouldn't your crimes would suit a gangster? Why have you been elected to serve a 4 year Presidential term when you should be serving a 30 year prison term for drug dealing alone?


In view of the fraud, deaths, lies, insider trading, drug dealing, drug use, and alcoholism, was it fair for you to enter the residential race at all? You don't care? What if the Press finally decides to do their job, and exposes all this? Your impeachment would make Nixon and Clinton look like saints.


Who would replace you after impeachment? Cheney? His background (eg with $3.8 billion corrupt government contracts, Haliburton/Brown and Root's billion dollar drug smuggling) also won't stand close scrutiny. Who in your government is honest enough to replace you without getting impeached? Did you not bother to calculate the damage this could do to America before you started? If the full extent of the activities of you and many of your associates in your government were widely published it could affect confidence and the stockmarket even more. Doesn't that worry you?


Do you think the American Press is so awful they just won't bother to expose you? Or do you believe you have Soviet style control of the National Press and knowledge of your criminal activities will always remain at the local level?


I apologise if you feel these questions are severe, but in free countries and given your background these are the questions that would be asked today. There is now less personal freedom in the USA than in Europe; can we assume it doesn't bother you in the least that American freedom is very second rate, and declining every day under your regime? Does it not bother you that the verse "the Land of the Free and the home of the Brave" is now a dishonest statement compared to many Western nations?


Mr President, I would like to thank you for your time as this interview draws to a close. But may I please take the opportunity to ask you for one Presidential favour?


As we have seen, many people have died because they knew too much about your
activities. Can you please grant me the favour of not adding me to the list?



Thank you and goodbye.
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Lt. Colonel William Harris, Jr.
Lt. Col. William Harris was one of two commanding officers who could not perform George W. Bush's annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973. They stated in their filing that "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Fortunately for George W. Bush, Lt. Col. Harris is not here to verify his 1973 statement. He's dead.

Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian
Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian was another of George W. Bush's commanding officers. He cannot testify in a court of law as to George W. Bush's dereliction of his sworn duty. Lt. Col. Killian is dead.

Note: we were unable to find details on the deaths of Lt. CoLs. Killian and Harris, only that they were dead. The names are included because they were relatively young men, whose deaths were convenient to Bush.

James Downing Aalund
Mr. Aalund's name is the first on a long list of young Texans who died in Vietnam. These young men did not have influential fathers to pull the strings necessary to get them into the Texas Air National Guard. If they had been so lucky, they would surely have fulfilled their responsibilities to the ANG, if only out of gratitude that they did not have to die, thousands of miles away in a strange land. They surely would not have disappeared from duty for over a year, as did our fearless leader George W. Bush.
Dead Heroes
Where have all the heroes gone? To the grave - one after another. John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Paul Wellstone - all silenced. It seems a foregone conclusion that when a leader comes along who truly represents the American people, not just the corporations, he is eliminated - by a lone gunman, or he dies in a plane crash. Are we to believe that this is simply coincidence?

This is a tribute to our past, to the men who helped shape our American ideals.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy
An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time.

Robert F. Kennedy
After his brother's death, people looked toward RFK with hope that he could be the one to make a difference. That hope was shattered on June 5, 1968, when Robert Kennedy was slain at the Ambassador Hotel in California, just after claiming victory in that state's Presidential primary.

Martin Luther King, Jr.
Martin Luther King was a beacon of hope for millions. When he took up the cause of Rosa Parks, a Montgomery seamstress who was arrested when she refused to give up her seat on a city bus to a white man, it was the catalyst for the civil rights movement and truly changed our world for the better. On April 4, 1968, Dr. King was shot and killed at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, Tennessee.

Paul Wellstone
He was a vocal opponent of the Bush administration and the only real progressive in the Senate. Polls showed that his popularity surged when he voted to oppose the war on Iraq. His victory in the Senate race was a foregone conclusion.

Senator Wellstone, his wife Sheila, daughter Marcia, three of his staff and both pilots were killed when his small plane went down in Evelyth, Minnesota, on October 25, 2002.


Selection 2000
Governor Mel Carnahan
In the midst of a heated race for the Senate against John Ashcroft, the Governor died in a plane crash on October 16, 2000. His death affected Democrats in two ways - it would hurt their chances of seizing control of the US Senate, and it would strongly impact the Presidential race between Al Gore and George W. Bush. Said St. Louis University political scientist Ken Warren, "There will be a sympathy vote, but that won't be enough to allow him to win. "I don't think the race will be very close. It's over." As we know now, Ashcroft lost to a dead man. Carnahan was elected by a landslide.

Lori Klausutis
Lori Klausutis, age 28, was found dead behind a desk in the offices of US Representative Joe Scarborough of Florida, a Republican, on July 20, 2001. Death was apparently due to a blow on the head. Claims that a heart condition precipitated an accidental fall are tenuous at best; Lori was a marathon runner, and one would think that a heart condition would already have become apparent. At the time of her death, she was treasurer of her chapter of the Florida Federation of Young Republicans. Readers will note that there is no mention of young Lori's passing, although there is that ever-present link to the Chandra/Gary dungheap that commands the attention of our media.

It is an interesting coincidence that Tim Klausitus, Lori's husband, worked on targeting technology for missiles, in light of the fact that Lori's body was discovered within a week of George W. Bush's much-ballyhooed missile defense test. Another interesting tidbit: Rep. Scarborough sits on both the Military Construction and the Research and Development Subcommittees. Scarborough has resigned and is leaving office in November, giving his family as the reason.

Dan Rocco
He died on April 1, 2002, in a plane crash in Gainesville, Georgia. He was an executive vice president at ChoicePoint, the firm that gained infamy with their faulty "felons" list supplied to Katherine Harris during the 2000 election in Florida. As a result of this list, thousands of voters (mostly African-American voters) were wrongly identified as felons and purged from the rolls.
Enron
J. Clifford Baxter
Found dead in his car, shot in the head. Mr. Baxter was vice chairman of Enron Corp. when he resigned in May 2001. Enron has been hot copy lately with the revelation that they were the largest campaign contributors for George W. Bush. Was J. Clifford Baxter a potential witness to Bush foreknowledge of their wrongdoings? His death was ruled a suicide.

Charles Dana Rice
He was the senior vice president and treasurer of El Paso Corp., an energy corporation swept up in the recent energy scandal. Two months after the "suicide" of Enron executive Clifford Baxter, in the midst of questions about the accounting practices of El Paso Corp., Charles Rice was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head. His death was ruled a suicide.

James Daniel Watkins
His body was found on December 1, 2001 in the Pike National Forest in Colorado, a gunshot wound to the head. Mr. Watkins was a consultant for Arthur Andersen, the accounting firm for Enron. He disappeared on November 13 after he left work. He was described as a devoted family man who always called home if he were going to be late. Officials initially said that the death was suspicious, but have changed their tune and have ruled his death a suicide.

Jake Horton
He was the senior ice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast, Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded.
Iran/Contra
Paul Wilcher
His partially decomposed body was found in his home, still seated on the toilet. According to the Washington Times, "...he was investigating the theory of an 'October Surprise' conspiracy during the 1980 federal election campaign. He had been interviewing an inmate who claimed to have piloted George Bush to Paris so he could secretly seek to delay the release of 52 American hostages in Iran."

Amiram Nir
He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.

Senator John Tower
He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.

Mohammed Zia al-huk
Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies. Why?

Barry Seal
He was supposedly murdered by Medellin cartel members, but a 6-month investigation by Sam Dalton, attorney for three of the accused murderers, into Mr. Seal's life and death uncovered some interesting points. The accused's cartel connections were well known, but not their association with Oliver North's enterprise. Mr. Seal was a drug smuggler, up to his armpits in smuggling cocaine for - guess who? - the CIA. During the penalty phase of the Columbians' trial, testimony by one government witness on the activities of Mr. Seal was so damaging to the government that 2 of the jurors wanted to change their verdict to "not guilty". The personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Mr. Seal's car.

William Colby
This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.

Mario Ruiz Massieu
An apparent suicide, Massieu was facing charges that he laundered money for the cocaine cartels. A Houston, Texas jury had found that $8 million in his bank accounts was paid to him by cocaine cartels.

Olof Palme
He was the prime minister of Sweden, assassinated in 1986. Oliver North, the golden boy of the Bush/Reagan machine, had met with Mr. Palme to discuss the possibility of obtaining false end-user certificates for the plethora of weapons that were being purchased, so that they would seem to have come from a country other than the U.S. Mr. Palme refused to participate, after the plan was presented to him. He was dead within weeks.

William Casey
William Casey was CIA Director during the Reagan/Bush Administration. He died 2 days before he was to testify about his and others' involvement in the Iran/Contra scandal.

Edmond J. Safra
Banker Edmond J. Safra died mysteriously when a fire swept his Monaco penthouse apartment. His banks had been used for laundering money by the Bush Iran/Contra traitors.

Charles M. McKee and Matthew Gannon
Charles M. McKee, ostensibly a military attache for the DIA in Beirut, Matthew Gannon, CIA Deputy Station Chief in Beirut, and three others were on board Pan Am Flight 103, which exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. They were part of a counterterrorist team in Beirut investigating the possible rescue of 9 American hostages in Lebanon. The McKee team uncovered evidence that a rogue CIA unit called COREA, based in Wiesbaden, was doing business with a man called Monzer Al-Kassar, a Syrian arms dealer and drug trafficker. Al-Kassar was part of the covert network run by U.S. Lieut. Colonel Oliver North. Outraged that the COREA unit in Wiesbaden was doing business with a Syrian who had close terrorist connections and might endanger their chances of rescuing the hostages, the McKee team decided to fly back to Virginia unannounced and expose the COREA unit's secret deal with al-Kassar. They never got there. "For three years, I've had a feeling that if Chuck hadn't been on that plane, it wouldn't have been bombed," said Beulah McKee, 75, Charles McKee's mother, to Time Magazine. Four months after her son was killed for his efforts to expose the CIA, Mrs. McKee received a sympathy letter from George H. W. Bush. Mrs. McKee has never been satisfied with the government's version of events.

Don Aronow
He was a close friend of George H. W. Bush. According to the book "George Bush, the Unauthorized Biography," there is compelling evidence to conclude that Aronow was a drug smuggler and suspected drug-money launderer. He was murdered by professional killers on February 3, 1987. In the days before his death, he made many personal calls to George H. W. Bush.

Tommy Teagle, a man interviewed by author Thomas Burdick, was afraid of being murdered by Bush because he had knowledge that Aronow and Jeb Bush had been partners in cocaine trafficking.

Frank Nugan and Michael Hand
They were partners in the Nugan Hand Bank, a front for CIA drug money, in Sydney, Australia. Michael Hand was a Green Beret and an Army Colonel assigned to the CIA. Hand was in frequent contact with George Bush after his election to Vice President, according to CIA operative Trent Parker. Frank Nugan was found in his car on a remote road outside Sydney, an apparent suicide. There were no fingerprints on the gun. Michael Hand disappeared shortly afterwards, and has not been seen since.

John Shaheen
John Shaheen was a Republican businessman and best friend of William J. Casey, head of the Reagan/Bush campaign, who helped set up arms negotiations with the Iranians. We can find no information on Mr. Shaheen's death.

Cyrus Hashemi
He was an Iranian banker who worked with John Shaheen, a Republican businessman and best friend of William J. Casey, head of the Reagan/Bush campaign. According to Hashemi's brother, Jamshid Hashemi, he arranged a meeting between William Casey and a radical Iranian mullah in July of 1980 that eventually derailed Carter's hostage negotiations and delayed the release of the 52 American hostages until January of 1981.

Hashemi died suddenly in July of 1986 of what was later diagnosed as leukemia. His brother and his lawyer, William Wachtel, remain convinced that Cyrus was murdered. Richard Babayan, an Iranian in prison for securities fraud, claims that Hashemi's death was ordered by high-ranking officials.

Senator Henry John Heinz III
He chaired the three-man presidential review board that probed the Iran-contra affair. He died in a plane crash in April 1991.

Amaro da Costa
Then Defense Minister of Portugal, he died in a plane crash in Lisbon in 1980. He was planning to disclose that he had discovered documents that showed Portugese officers were helping to traffic arms to Iran.

Sa Carneiro
Former Prime Minister of Portugal and a very popular leader, he died in the same plane crash that killed Amaro da Costa.
Kennedy Assassination
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time.

Hale Boggs
He sat on the Warren Commission, which concluded that President Kennedy was slain by a lone assassin. Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs said that the Warren Report was false and that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI not only helped cover up the JFK murder but blackmailed Congress with massive wire-tapping and spying. He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist. Congressman Boggs' plane disappeared on a flight to Alaska in 1972. The press, the military, and the CIA publicly proclaimed the plane could not be located. Investigators later said that was a lie, that the plane had been found. On the plane were Nick Begich, a very popular Democratic Congressman, and Don Jonz, an aide to Mr. Boggs. All were killed.

George de Mohrenschildt
A rich Russian oilman, he was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gunshot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by George H.W. Bush).

Mrs. E. Howard Hunt
In December 1972, while George H. W. Bush was at the Republican National Convention, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. Dorothy Hunt, CIA operative and wife of Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash.

Poppy
Jack Delaney and Ted White
These young men were killed when pilot George H. W. Bush abandoned his plane when it was hit by enemy fire. Much has been made of this story - Bush propaganda would have us believe that he was a hero. An eyewitness to the event tells us otherwise: Chester Mierzejewski, who was the turret gunner in another plane, had an unobstructed view. He states that he saw a "puff of smoke" come from Bush's plane and quickly dissipate. He states that the plane was never on fire and that Bush never attempted a water landing, which was standard procedure, and which would have given Mr. Delaney and Mr. White a chance.

Gary Caradori
He was investigating Lawrence E. King, Jr., a very influential black Republican who was also a friend of George H.W. Bush. King was director of the Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and was suspected of embezzling $40 million. The Nebraska Senate questioned child prostitutes, who accused King of running a child prostitution ring. One of these children said that she saw George H.W. Bush at one of King's parties. "Pronto", a newspaper in Barcelona, Spain, reported that the scandal "appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington DC who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself". Gary Caradori claimed that he had evidence that supported these allegations. On July 11, 1990, Gary Caradori was killed along with his 6-year old son in the crash of his small plane, after a mid-air explosion, the cause of which was never discovered. He had told friends repeatedly in the weeks before his death that he was afraid his plane would be sabotaged.

Orlando Letelier
He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED.

Ronni Moffit
She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't.
Prescott Bush
Eleven million people, Jews and other ethnic and social minorities, were murdered by the Nazi regime. Prescott Bush did business and made money from, and for, the Nazis. What would happen to him under today's Patriot Act? And how can we let the grandson of such a man lead us in an unprovoked attack on another country?

William S. Farish
He was one of Prescott Bush's partners in business deals with Adolph Hitler. He was devastated by the intense grilling he received from the Senate about his dealings with Nazis, and while Prescott Bush skated free, Farish collapsed and died on November 29, 1942.

James Forrestal
He was Undersecretary and Secretary of the Navy during WWII, and became the first Secretary of Defense in 1947. On March 28, 1949, he was forced out of office and flown on a military plane to Jupiter Island in Florida. From there he was taken to Walter Reed Army Hospital, where he was given insulin shock treatments. He was shielded from all visitors except his estranged wife. On May 22, 1949, he was found hanging by his bathrobe cord out a sixteenth-story hospital window. His death was ruled a suicide, but results of the Army inquest were not made public.
September 11
2,993 people lost their lives in attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in the crash of a fourth hijacked plane in rural SW Pennsylvania. These attacks were preventable. These people did not have to die.

Bob Stevens
Mr. Stevens died of a mysterious case of anthrax. He worked as a photo editor for American Media, who owns the National Enquirer. The Bush family suffered enormous embarrassment at the hands of the Enquirer when they published a photo of daughter Jenna Bush, obviously intoxicated, cigarette in hand, cavorting on the floor with another drunken female.

Don C. Wiley
Dr. Wiley disappeared November 15, 2001 in Memphis, Tennessee. He was attending a two-day annual meeting of the scientific advisory board of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. His work on deadly diseases such as ebola and HIV raised fears of a terrorist kidnapping. Four hours later, his rental car was found on a bridge, raising the question of suicide, which his family vehemently refuted. Dr. Wiley was found a month later in the Mississipi River.

Salem bin Laden
In 1979 Bush business Arbusto Energy obtained financing from James Bath, a close family friend. Bath had extensive ties to BCCI and the bin Laden family. Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, the brother of Osama bin Laden. It is well known in certain circles that the Arbusto money came straight from Salem bin Laden, although Bush denies it. Salem bin Laden died when for no apparent reason, he flew his airplane into power lines where it became entangled, and fell 150 feet to the ground. "He was a very experienced pilot. He was a good pilot. We just can't understand why he decided to go right instead of left," recalled airstrip owner Earl May field.

John O'Neill
He was Director of Counterterrorism at the New York offices of the F.B.I. until he resigned in August 2001. One of the world's top experts on Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, he grew to believe that "all the answers" regarding what they needed to destroy Al Qaeda lay in Saudi Arabia. However, starting in January 2001, Bush blocked all efforts by Mr. O'Neill to investigate Saudi ties to bin Laden. In the summer of 2001 O'Neill declared that the main obstacles to his investigation were U.S. oil interests.

In late August, a frustrated O'Neill quit the FBI and took a position as head of security for the World Trade Center. From Democrats.com:

September 11: On O'Neill's second day of work on the 34th floor, the WTC is hit by the first plane. O'Neill makes it out of the building safely, calls his son to say he is OK,. then goes into the other tower to help guide those still inside to safety. Minutes later, O'Neill, along with hundreds of others, is dead, killed by the terrorist the Bush administration refused to allow him to pursue to the best of his ability.

Thomas Morris Jr.
Mr. Morris was a ****** worker who died October 21, 2001, of inhalation anthrax. When people expressed concern to the current occupant of the White House about the anthrax cases in New York and Washington, his response was to tell us not to worry, that he does not have anthrax.

Joseph Curseen
Mr. Curseen died October 22, 2001, of inhalation anthrax. It has been reported that the anthrax infections since September 11 are of the same strain that was kept in a military facility.

Kathy T. Nguyen
Ms. Nguyen died on October 31, 2001, of inhalation anthrax. But we shouldn't worry - George W. Bush remains anthrax-free.

Katherine Smith
She had been implicated in February in a phony documents scheme said to be related to the September 11 hijackers. One day before she was due in court, she was incinerated in her car after having hit a utility pole. An investigation revealed that the crash was minor and was not the cause of the fire that burned Smith beyond recognition. Who was really behind 9/11? Was Katherine Smith privy to that information? Why did she have to die, and who killed her?
Silenced Voices
Steve Kangas
His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the right, especially Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide.

Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away.

Danny Casolaro
He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, an apparent suicide.

Mark Lombardi
He was an accomplished conceptual artist who, while chatting on the phone with a banker friend about the Bush savings and loan scandal, started doodling a diagram and was inspired to create a complex series of drawings and sketches that charted the details of the scandal. According to the New York Times, "He was soon charting the complex matrices of personal and professional relationships, conflict of interest, malfeasance and fraud uncovered by investigations into the major financial and political scandals of the day; to keep facts and sources straight, he created a handwritten database that now includes around 12,000 3-by-5-inch cards."

On the evening of March 22, 2000, Mark Lombardi was found hanging in his loft, an apparent suicide.

James Hatfield
Mr. Hatfield was the author of Fortunate Son, an unauthorized biography of George W. Bush. The book detailed Bush's cocaine use and cover up of a cocaine arrest. He was found Wednesday, July 18, in a motel room, an apparent suicide.
Texas Justice
Karla Faye Tucker
She was executed in spite of enormous protest from the public, even those religious groups that advocate the death penalty. Even Pat Robertson thought that Karla was truly repentant and asked George W. Bush to spare her life. He refused. Afterward, in a Talk Magazine interview, Bush mocked the woman whose death warrant he had sanctioned, pursing his lips and whimpering, "Please don't kill me!"

David Wayne Spence
David Wayne Spence was executed in Texas in 1997 in spite of compelling evidence of his innocence. Two of the State's witnesses were co-defendants who testified to avoid the death penalty, one of whom changed his story three times in response to discrepancies. He later testified that police officer Truman Simons encouraged him to alter his testimony. Two other witnesses for the State were jailhouse snitches who recanted later and stated that they were offered favors in exchange for testimony. All of this and more was supposedly reviewed by Governor George W. Bush, but Bush refused to commute his sentence, and did not order the Board of Pardons and Paroles to review his request for clemency. It is a myth that a Texas Governor can do nothing to stop executions; the Board will almost always go with his recommendation. Bush washed his hands of the matter and did nothing. Reasonable doubt is not a factor in Texas justice.

Gary Graham
Gary Graham was convicted of the robbery and murder of a white man in 1981. Nearly two weeks after the crime, the state's prime witness could not pick Gary's picture out of a photo line-up. Mr. Graham was arrested with a 22 caliber pistol. The victim had been killed with a 22, but the police firearms examiner determined that Mr. Graham's gun DID NOT fire the fatal bullet. Four witnesses said Gary Graham was with them, miles away from the convenience store, when the murder occured. All four took and passed polygraph tests. George W. Bush, predictably, expressed his faith in the Texas judicial system and allowed Mr. Graham to be put to death. Mr. Graham maintained his innocence to the end.
Watergate
Lou Russell
Lou Russell worked as a private detective for an agency that was helping George H.W. Bush, then chairman of the RNC, prepare for a press conference. It is a rumor that Lou Russell was the fabled "sixth burglar" of Watergate, the one who got away. On May 16, 1973, "Deep Throat" warned Bob Woodward that "Everyone's life is in danger." and that "electronic surveillance is going on and we had better watch it.". On May 18, Lou Russell suffered a massive heart attack that put him in Adventist Hospital, where he recovered somewhat and stayed until June 20. Russell told his daughter that he believed he had been poisoned. On July 2, two weeks after his release from the hospital, he had another "heart attack" and died.

John Leon
He was a friend and associate of Lou Russell. He was collecting statements about Watergate, and was to be the focus of a press conference. Leon suffered a "heart attack" and died, on the day before the conference was to be held.
 

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You guys kill me with these obscure websites that you dig up!
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Atleast my sources are from people you have actually heard of.....Not like people named Jolene and Alison, who probably don't even live in the US. You know how I know that all of these postings are opinions from foreigners? It's because none of them know there "S" from a "Z". For example, the word apologise is spelled with a Z here in America. Or how bout the word "Favour" instead of "favor". I could probably go on and on but I prefer not to read opinions when I could spend my time reading facts.

I mean look at your websites...... bushfraud.blogspot.com. That's real objective!
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Come on, atleast pull data from sites that people have heard of......

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Damn Lander! It seems like it's hard to make all this $hit up. More proof of Bush shady ass dealings and not a person the American people should trust one iota!
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KMan,
Which of the genocidal Bushes in the long history of genocidal Bush family member is your favorite?

I like Prescott - he most closely resembles Satan IMO, although GWB would surely surpass Prescott's numbers in genocidal murder if he wasn't so damn stupid.
 

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From Washington Post.

By Lois Romano
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 10, 2004; Page A07


The Defense Department has requested that President Bush's payroll records from his service in the National Guard be sent to Washington from a DOD archive in Colorado, to ascertain whether they can be released to news organizations and public interest groups that have formally requested them in recent days, according to DOD officials.



Bush, in an interview shown Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," said he would release all his records, including pay stubs, to put to rest political suggestions that he may not have fulfilled his duty near the end of his Guard service, from May 1972 to May 1973. The president also suggested there might not be anything in the records that has not already been in the public domain.

"I mean, people have been looking for these files for a long period of time, trust me, and starting in the 1994 campaign for [Texas] governor," Bush said. "And I can assure you in the year 2000 people were looking for those files as well."

Asked in the interview whether he would authorize release of his Guard records, the president said, "Yes, absolutely."

Bush enlisted in the Texas Air National Guard in 1968, two weeks before graduating from Yale and at the height of the Vietnam War.

At issue is a 12-month period, commencing in May 1972, when Bush moved to Alabama to work on a senatorial campaign. He received permission to transfer to an Alabama unit and was instructed to report to duty there. There is no definitive evidence in his file that he reported to the Alabama unit to perform drills; Bush has said he did report and perform drills.

Bush's personnel records also are vague on what he did in the Texas Guard after returning to Houston after the Senate election he worked on. The first date in the records for 1973 is May 29, when they indicate he attended drills. The records show he attended drills at least 18 times between May 29 and July 30.

In his annual evaluation, covering the period of May 1972 to April 1973, Lt. Col. William D. Harris wrote that he could not evaluate Bush because "he has not been observed" in Houston. Bush left the Guard in October 1973 to attend Harvard Business School.

Bush's service record was explored by the Democrats and the media in 2000 but received new attention recently, when Democratic National Committee Chairman Terence R. McAuliffe called Bush "AWOL" -- absent without leave -- during his time in Alabama.

According to military experts familiar with National Guard records, there are two documents that could indicate whether Bush reported for drills during that year. One is an annual summary of his points, the quantitative measure of his service. The summary includes each date he reported for a drill and how many points he received toward his annual requirement.

His official personnel record, obtained by The Post in 2000, does not include a summary of service for the time in Alabama. There is a sheet, where the name has been torn off, that includes dates for that period, but there is no way to confirm it refers to Bush because his Social Security number has been redacted. Also, no one who served in Bush's Alabama unit at that time has come forward, despite years of publicity on the subject. The brigadier general Bush was to report to in Alabama has said he has no recollection of Bush's doing so.

The other documents that should still be available are Bush's payroll records, which would show what drills Bush was compensated for during that period. Officials said yesterday that the DOD in Washington would review the master copy of Bush's payroll records, which have been stored on microfiche for 30 years at the Defense Finance and Accounting Service in Denver.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan yesterday told reporters that everything was made available during the 2000 campaign. "I think that one of the things you can look at that will help address these questions is the annual retirement point summaries . . . They show that the president fulfilled his duties, and that is why he was honorably discharged," he said.

McClellan said that in 2000, the Bush campaign was informed by the Texas National Guard that "they did not have them. Obviously, if there's anything additional, we'll keep you posted."
 

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Does lander have a job or life ? I will never understand how some people don't respect the President of the United States ( US citizens). You don't have to respect the man, but atleast the position of President. You can disagree, protest, etc. .....but some of these folks sound un-American (I know some are). I look back to JFK, Carter, and Clinton and see alot of mistakes and character flaws, but I always respected the office they held. It will never be perfect regardless of who is in the oval office. Some people need to get out and see that people don't like and us and will harm us anyway they can. The 2 oceans have protected us along time ....but not anymore .....we have to deal with terrorist/rogue countries before they hit us.
 

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el diablo - That's the time that we are in. Even if President Bush finds the WMD in Iraq, and captures Bin Laden the liberals will come up with something new to bitch about. That's just what they do. They use their so called "freedom of speech" to criticize and put down anyone that doesn't agree with them.

President Bush could even switch from conservative to liberal and the libs would still bitch, because that's what they do. Bitch, Bitch, Bitch. They spend time on message boards putting other people down instead of offering solutions. Instead of running for office and fixing the nations problems they would rather bitch....because that's what liberals do.

If you look at the last 1000 posts by the so called liberal posters, you may find 10 that actually offers up a suggestion on how we should fix the economy, or this is how we should fix the health care problem. All you will see is President Bush is a killer, liar, blah, blah, blah. They can't help but let their hatred for Bush get the best of them.

Try not to let them get to you. As long as they stay here on these message boards and don't actually stand up for what they believe we are safe from them.

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Kwalder:
"JFK was a criminal and it runs in his family."
That's debatable, but what's clear as day is that the Kennedy's fortune (and hence power) came from bootlegging during prohibition. I'm not a Kennedy fan, but just like your assinine Clinton comparisions this has NOTHING to do with the appointed President Bush since neither JFK or Bill Clinton can run for President again.

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el diablo:
"Does lander have a job or life?"
I work full time and freelance on the side. In between the two, I follow world politics and make a bit extra on the side via gambling (when time permits). My income doesn't hold a candle to Neil Bush's illegal income, but I do ok.
Thanks for your concern.

"I will never understand how some people don't respect the President of the United States ( US citizens). You don't have to respect the man, but atleast the position of President."
I'm assuming that your expectations of loyalty to those in power encompasses mankind, not just Americans, correct? If so, would you also show disdain towards Germans against Hilter? Iraqis against Saddam? Soviets against Stalin or Lenin? Mao? Slov?

That's just it mi amigo, America was setup with this intricate system of checks and balances, limitations of power and MOST importantly the Constitution which grants us the "Freedom of Speech" in the 1st Amendment. Without the 1st Amendment there would be no dissent, and without dissent there would be little power for the people.

"You can disagree, protest, etc. .....but some of these folks sound un-American (I know some are). I look back to JFK, Carter, and Clinton and see alot of mistakes and character flaws, but I always respected the office they held. It will never be perfect regardless of who is in the oval office. Some people need to get out and see that people don't like and us and will harm us anyway they can. The 2 oceans have protected us along time ....but not anymore .....we have to deal with terrorist/rogue countries before they hit us."
It would seem the difference between yourself and the "un-American" (as you put it) is that you "respect" the man holding the presidency whereas we "respect" the traditional American values.

The revolution was fought to free ourselves from overbearing tyrants, not to replace them with different tyrants.

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Kman,
"All you will see is President Bush is a killer, liar, blah, blah, blah"
Sorry to disappoint you, but some of us will always consider the value of life to be infintately superior to the American quality of life.

Thousands and thousands of children starve to death every year while we waste billions $72,000,000,000+ on bombs each year destroying mankind.

Spin it so you're able to sleep at night, but don't expect free-thinking people to buy into the load of crap that Washington gives you as "rationale" for genocide.
 

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First of all, Kman, your disdain for non-American opinion is absolutely ridiculous given the foreign policy stance adopted by the Bush administration that you wholeheartedly support. If us foreigners have no right to an opinion about Bush, then certainly you have no right to an opinion about Saddam or any other foreign leader.

Secondly, if we are to limit our information sources to sites that you have heard of, we would never learn anything new ... you post a thread supposedly to expose the 'facts' of George Bush citing a link to georgewbush.com. This is your definition of an unbiased source? So, had the internet been around in 1930, adolfhitler.org would have been the 'go-to' site for further information on the treatment of Jews and other non-Aryans?! Do you realise how ridiculous you sound? If you want to know if the above information is credible or not, you would amazed at what you can find if you decided to look for it. In fact, the US State Department is surpisingly willing to keep speeches and other records on file for quite a length of time. There is a tremendous amount of documented hypocrisy if you know where to look. Further, many of the points cited in Lander's second post reference their sources including: the Wall Street Journal, Boston globe, New York Post, New York Times, Fox News, Time Magazine, Newsweek, Reuters and MSNBC. I trust that you have heard of these publications.

Lander: Wow, and thank-you for posting that.
 

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The hate*****rs at "bushfraud" might be interested to know that their presidential candidate is a member of the "Satanic" Skull and Bones as well.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Christof:
The hate*****rs at "bushfraud" might be interested to know that their presidential candidate is a member of the "Satanic" Skull and Bones as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasn't aware that the DNC had selected a candidate. Hopefully, when they do, that candidate will be Sen. John Edwards.
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